SInging and dancing between the sessions? Sounds like they are trying to make sure there's little time for people to chat and compare notes. Instead keeping them entertained.
Anna Marina
JoinedPosts by Anna Marina
-
-
-
-
66
INSANE last days speculation in 10/2019 WT
by neat blue dog inthe october 2019 study edition, speaking of the last days after the governments destroy all religion except jws:.
at some point, the people whose re-ligions were destroyed may resent thefact that jehovah’s witnesses keep prac-ticing their religion.
we can only imag-ine the uproar that this might create, in-cluding on social media.
-
-
Anna Marina
Hi Listener
This is from an organization that also teaches that the trumpet blowing mentioned in Revelation, started at their 1922 Convention at Cedar Point.
Even worse they said the 7th one blew in 1914 - so the rest blew after the 7th had blown.
They are rubbish with numbers - intentionally so I think.
*** re chap. 26 p. 171 God’s Sacred Secret—Its Glorious Climax! ***
Chapter 26
God’s Sacred Secret—Its Glorious Climax!
DO YOU recall the sworn declaration by the strong angel recorded at Revelation 10:1, 6, 7? He stated: “There will be no delay any longer; but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.” Jehovah’s due time has arrived for the sounding of that final trumpet! How is it, then, that the sacred secret is brought to a finish? John is truly overjoyed to inform us! He writes: “And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: ‘The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.’” (Revelation 11:15) Those angelic hosts have reason to speak loudly, even in thunderous tones! For this historic announcement is of universal importance. It is of vital concern to all living creation.
2 The sacred secret comes to its happy climax! Gloriously, magnificently, it is brought to a triumphant finish in 1914 when the Lord Jehovah enthrones his Christ as associate King. Acting for his Father, Jesus Christ takes over active rulership in the midst of an enemy world of mankind. As the promised Seed, he receives Kingdom power in order to bring to nothing the Serpent and his brood and restore paradisaic peace to this earth. (Genesis 3:15; Psalm 72:1, 7) As Messianic King, Jesus will thus fulfill Jehovah’s Word and vindicate his Father, “the King of eternity,” who must rule as Sovereign Lord “forever and ever.”—1 Timothy 1:17. -
10
Questions Re October 2019 Watchtower
by DNCall inin the october 2019 watchtower, in the article "1919--one hundred years ago" it states:.
"but the brothers at headquarters could not just resume the work that they had been doing for years.
because during their imprisonment, all the printing plates that were used to print literature had been destroyed.
-
-
Anna Marina
Just noticed this in OP quote:-
"...all the printing plates that were used to print literature had been destroyed. This was discouraging, and some brothers wondered if the preaching work was finished."
So printing literature = preaching work. Who on earth thinks that because printing plates have been destroyed they don't have to communicate anymore?
Question - did Jesus teach his disciples to PRINT literature or to just go out talking to others about the good news. Yes the scriptures existed and the gospels etc were added but they were hand written. Its like saying, "because my pen ran out of ink I thought the preaching work was done."
-
10
Questions Re October 2019 Watchtower
by DNCall inin the october 2019 watchtower, in the article "1919--one hundred years ago" it states:.
"but the brothers at headquarters could not just resume the work that they had been doing for years.
because during their imprisonment, all the printing plates that were used to print literature had been destroyed.
-
-
Anna Marina
DNCall - I don't know why the printing plates were destroyed (and I haven't read the Oct 2019 WT) but I remembered this from the Revelation Grand Climax book (chap. 21 pp. 129-131) - is it possible they destroyed the printing plates themselves because they thought they were going off to heaven?
Quote starts-
A Time for Fervent Prayer
A significant silence this! Half an hour can seem a long time when you are waiting for something to happen. Now, even the constant heavenly chorus of praise is no longer heard. (Revelation 4:8) Why? John sees the reason in vision: “And another angel arrived and stood at the altar, having a golden incense vessel; and a large quantity of incense was given him to offer it with the prayers of all the holy ones upon the golden altar that was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense ascended from the hand of the angel with the prayers of the holy ones before God.”—Revelation 8:3, 4.
3 This reminds us that under the Jewish system of things, incense was burned daily at the tabernacle and, in later years, at the temple in Jerusalem. (Exodus 30:1-8) During such incense burning, the nonpriestly Israelites waited outside the sacred area, praying—no doubt silently in their hearts—to the One to whom the incense smoke was ascending. (Luke 1:10) John now sees something similar happening in heaven. The incense offered by the angel is associated with “the prayers of the holy ones.” In fact, in an earlier vision, incense is said to represent such prayers. (Revelation 5:8; Psalm 141:1, 2) Evidently, then, the symbolic silence in heaven is to allow the prayers of the holy ones on earth to be heard.
4 Can we determine when this happened? Yes, we can, by examining the context, together with historical developments early in the Lord’s day. (Revelation 1:10) During 1918 and 1919, events on earth harmonized remarkably with the scenario described at Revelation 8:1-4. For 40 years before 1914, the Bible Students—as Jehovah’s Witnesses were then called—had been announcing boldly that the times of the Gentiles would end in that year. The distressful events of 1914 proved them correct. (Luke 21:24, King James Version; Matthew 24:3, 7, 8) But many of them also believed that in 1914 they would be taken from this earth to their heavenly inheritance. That did not happen. Instead, during the first world war, they endured a time of severe persecution. On October 31, 1916, the first president of the Watch Tower Society, Charles T. Russell, died. Then, on July 4, 1918, the new president, Joseph F. Rutherford, and seven other representatives of the Society were transported to the Atlanta, Georgia, penitentiary, wrongly sentenced to long years in prison.
5 The sincere Christians of the John class were perplexed. What did God want them to do next? When would they be taken up to heaven? An article entitled “The Harvest Ended—What Shall Follow?” appeared in the May 1, 1919, issue of The Watch Tower. It reflected this state of uncertainty and encouraged the faithful to continued endurance, adding: “We believe it is now a true saying that the harvest of the kingdom class is an accomplished fact, that all such are duly sealed and that the door is closed.” During this difficult period, the fervent prayers of the John class were ascending, as though in the smoke of a large quantity of incense. And their prayers were being heard!
End of quote
-
37
Kids being disfellowshipped
by Nikki collins inso some ex-jws and i were at dinner last night talking about how some of the ones baptized this year were so young.
a few under the age of 10!!
can you imagine if a kid got dfd at that age.... would the congregation shun them?
-
-
Anna Marina
What if they stop baptising anyone and just get them to take vows or sign contracts or the like?
-
13
Tonights mid week meeting study 7 " Accurate and convincing"
by benny inthe video at he mid week meeting tonight shows a video on how teaching must be based on hard researched fact and that we are encouraged to look at watchtower literature to get up to speed on a subject.. here is the link to it https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/reading-teaching-videos/accurate-and-convincing-video/.
i find this quite disturbing when you look at the feb 2017 watchtower which explains the governing body errs in their understanding of subjects yet they claim to be god's channel of communication to his people.. what are the thoughts on this?.
i know there are other topics on new light etc...
-
-
Anna Marina
Hi Stan
I think it'll be, "you know we said Jesus became invisibly present in 1914, woops sorry, we meant Satan. But then he always was the invisible ruler, but he'd lost his mind for a bit like Nebuchadnezzar, then at the end of 7 times, in 1914 his senses returned to him. Hence World War I. Aren't we happyfied we now understand this. Therefore, will now rename this man-trap of an organisation, cause the light just got even dimmer and no one can challenge us."
-
13
Tonights mid week meeting study 7 " Accurate and convincing"
by benny inthe video at he mid week meeting tonight shows a video on how teaching must be based on hard researched fact and that we are encouraged to look at watchtower literature to get up to speed on a subject.. here is the link to it https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/reading-teaching-videos/accurate-and-convincing-video/.
i find this quite disturbing when you look at the feb 2017 watchtower which explains the governing body errs in their understanding of subjects yet they claim to be god's channel of communication to his people.. what are the thoughts on this?.
i know there are other topics on new light etc...
-
-
Anna Marina
These words should have been in the video to make the matter clear:
"Our mission is to destroy confidence any may put in the words of the Bible. Please work with us on this by only studying and quoting from the Watchtower. Thank you for your cooperation."
-
30
Why do CO's refuse to strip Elders of their position?
by Tenacious inin several congregations i attended many elders were downright evil and flat out drunk with power.. many times i personally knew of things done by them that would have been a disfellowshipping offense had they not been elders.
and even though many times these issues and spiritual atrocities were reported to the co's and hq they would many times (if not all the time), get off with a mere slap on the wrist or a forced apology.. why do you believe elders are so protected?.
my theory is the authority integrity within the congregation.
-
-
Anna Marina
Tenacious - sent you a PM
-
37
Kids being disfellowshipped
by Nikki collins inso some ex-jws and i were at dinner last night talking about how some of the ones baptized this year were so young.
a few under the age of 10!!
can you imagine if a kid got dfd at that age.... would the congregation shun them?
-
-
Anna Marina
Hi Diogenesister - yes you got it. That's what I mean.
Add in that the law is there, not to bring about justice but maintain the status quo - wait for the status quo to change, ie child abuse gets legalised and no more problems for WBTS. They might even start causing problem for those who took them to court.
-
30
Why do CO's refuse to strip Elders of their position?
by Tenacious inin several congregations i attended many elders were downright evil and flat out drunk with power.. many times i personally knew of things done by them that would have been a disfellowshipping offense had they not been elders.
and even though many times these issues and spiritual atrocities were reported to the co's and hq they would many times (if not all the time), get off with a mere slap on the wrist or a forced apology.. why do you believe elders are so protected?.
my theory is the authority integrity within the congregation.
-
-
Anna Marina
Green handshakes?